Transcript for August 2017

>> Okay, we're live. So I can get us started. This is Chuck [inaudible], the coordinator of the [inaudible] program. It's great to have you guys here to learn more about RCSA. You know, our student association [inaudible] program. RCSA has been around 10 years, and so it's really an exceptional part of our program. You know, it [inaudible] speak from a student voice to get students together to offer social opportunities, professional development opportunities, a lot of different things. And you know, I was talking with Liz, one of our students here thinking about running for a position, about what RSCA is really about. It's really different from year to year, because the students who -- the officers for RCSA they, you know, bring their own interests, their own objectives, their own experiences to this role. So it does really change from year to year. And so the plan for tonight, we're going to have our current officers -- or actually, our existing -- our exiting officers from '16-'17 to talk about their role in RCSA. You know, what -- maybe their reasons for wanting to do this, what they've done as officers in the organization, what recommendations, you know, would they have for you in terms of thinking about this. And then we'll talk about the election process for this upcoming year and some of the details of that. And I'll be monitoring the discussion online. Right now we don't have anybody joining online, but we may. And if they have a question when -- ask for the -- what I'll do with the speakers is I'll raise my hand, and I'll say that we have a question from somebody online. And then I'll just -- I'll say their question for them. So this presentation is being recorded. We'll have this available on the RCPA website. I'll send a message out, you know, when it is available. And again, it's great to have everyone here on a Friday night in the middle of summer. So I appreciate you being here. So for our people listening to the recording and those who are going to join us online, this won't apply to you, but for those in the room, we do have some pizza here. Feel free at any time to jump in and take it. And with that, I'm going to hand it over to our officers from 2016-2017.

>> Great, thank you. Happy to be here.

>> Yep.

>> Hi!

>> Hi, Rachel.

>> I'm here virtually. Well, I guess virtually. [Inaudible] want to start off, or would you like me to kind of start off talking about it?

>> Oh, yeah, you can start off.

>> Okay, so I -- [inaudible] people.

>> Hi, Rachel.

>> Okay, so my name is Rachel. I am the -- or I was the President of the RCSA. Is there an echo?

>> No.

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>> Okay, I hear an echo on my end, so I didn't know if it was translating over there. So I am the President of the RCSA currently. What I would like to mention about RCSA is that it really is kind of -- you just make it what you want it to be. Like this -- for us, our group, we tried to make it as social as possible. And I think we came to find that that was a little bit more challenging that we had expected, just because we're all in grad school, and we all have lives, and maintaining social life is like a [inaudible] thing to do. So for us, as much as we wanted to do social activities, it was hard for us to always get together and do all of the activities that we had initially [inaudible]. But that was kind of our [inaudible] in the past, which is really, really cool. So we tried to have a balance. Like I had this idea of a [inaudible] of basically hitting three different areas. They were professional development, social, and then something academic, or a workshop that's actually just take that knowledge and use it somehow in our fields in some way. [Inaudible] but the thing is with the upcoming elections and with the new president and officers, there really is a chance to make it into whatever you want it to. There's no strict structure.

And so I think what's really important, also you get [inaudible] leadership to use the knowledge, which is kind of nice. But I do think that the great thing about this org is that it really is built to be what we want it to be and what a cohort -- each cohort wants it to look like. So yeah, that's kind of my real take on that. But in terms of being the president, I don't actually [inaudible] but obviously the president is [inaudible] organization. And the president also works with the officers to kind of build a team to [inaudible] bring these of us together. And the officers, honestly, because I was so busy this semester, they helped me out the most. So I was -- I -- this is their organization. I don't even say and I don't even [inaudible]. And everybody else just [inaudible]. Well, yeah, so that's basically it. But if you have any questions -- I have this really bad echo on my end, so I'm [inaudible] speaking. But yeah, I'm going to leave it to [inaudible] to take over a little bit and fill in for parts that I'm not getting to because this echo is driving me nuts.

>> Well, I don't know what else to say. You pretty much said it all. But I am currently the acting Vice President, so what I do is, you know, Rachel and I, I guess, [inaudible] do what -- you know, we help each other out. And like Rachel was saying, we were trying to do that trifecta, you know, socializing, networking, but also doing like academic things. And I think if you were around, we did the poster board presentation where we -- you for one of Marge's classes you have to do a poster board on your research project that you do. And so, you know, teaching the first-year students who were in her class how to, you know, put the poster together on PowerPoint, you know, and all these -- that type of things. And so I think that was really helpful to -- for a few students taking that class. And then, you know, trying to put that social aspect as well. But like Rachel said, it's hard. We all have lives, you know, and we all -- some of us have full-time jobs, so trying to go out after that, it can be a struggle.

So we were just trying to, you know, really incorporate all that, but also keep in mind, you know, that we are full of things. So a lot of things that we do -- so just trying to get that balance in there. And you know, you can do with it as you please, mix more networking, more socializing. The thing that I really liked about is that I got to meet students from other cohorts that I typically probably never would have been in contact with. And just, you know, being kind of there, especially if they're in the same field -- same concentration as I am. So being able to them, you know, what to expect, what you can, you know, expect from the professors, from the assignments that you'll get. And you know, it's just really nice to be able to talk with other people outside of your cohort.

>> That was great. Thank you both. My name is Eva, and I was the recognized student officer. And I just basically helped around wherever I could. I spent the beginning of the semester last year going to the classrooms and giving dates of our future events. And having people know about our events was basically my role. Just want to piggyback on what Dorothea and Rachel have said about not having time for the social aspect. I agree with that as well. But our poster board presentation we phenomenal, and it was kind of like a social activity, but it also really helped us out for our assignments. So I feel like events like that are really productive, like if we can, you know, combine the social and academic together. Why join? Again, like it was a lot of networking and information that I would not have had otherwise. It was nice to have some mentors and, you know, people like Dorothea telling me the ropes -- teaching me the ropes, that was great. So it's a good reason to join. And that's about it. Any questions?

>> Yeah, I've got a few questions, and then I think we'll open up to the students that are around. So you know, we obviously have some students here who are thinking about running for an officer position. You know, what recommendations would you have let's say if like if they [inaudible] serving as an officer with RCSA? Like how do they decide on what to do in their role, because it's -- you know, it's kind of ambiguous as far as what exactly this means to be an RCSA officer. I think everyone kind of comes into it not really knowing what to expect. So what kind of things would you recommend to people that are starting out, you know, doing this role?

>> I think the biggest thing is having an open mind. Not everything is going to work out the way that you want it to. You know, you might have it planned from A to Z and everything in between but, you know, things fall apart because like people have lives, you know, funding, whatever happens. And it's just being able to roll with it and [inaudible], "Okay, didn't work out this way. Let's try and figure out how to do it a different way." And along with that it's also that because you can make it your own, you have a lot of wiggle room. But it also means that, you know -- I forgot what I was going to say -- because there's so much wiggle room, you can do it the way you want to, but you also have to keep in mind like what everyone else kind of expects of the RCSA. And I think that was a part -- something that we touched upon during our year was what does RCSA, and what do we plan on doing with it, and a lot --

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>> Sorry for those [inaudible]. Going to try to call Rachel back.

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All right, technology --

>> She's going to call in. I'm not going to be able to call in.

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>> All right, well, let's hope Rachel gets back.

>> And just to continue on what a first-year officer would do, I really like the fact that Rachel did set up that trifecta of, you know, the professional, social, academic, because like I'm really structured and like I'm really structured and like I need some direction. So that helped me in my mind be like, "Okay, we need one event for this, one event for this, one event for this." And then once we got a couple of those events underway, we talked about doing like -- what was it? -- for like going on the walks, like the [inaudible] walks and --

>> Yeah, so getting involved in like more nonprofit [inaudible] like the [inaudible] walks, which we put together, so a couple of us went. So that's more like a social, but also like a teambuilding or like networking event, too. Like I said, the poster event, so that was more like academic. And then we did, I think, a welcome night, too, where we just like talked with deans [beeping] --

>> Hit the on-and-off button. Yeah, there you are.

>> Rachel?

>> Yeah, I'm sorry.

>> All right.

>> You're next.

>> How's the echo?

>> It's better now.

>> All right, good, all right.

>> Yeah, so like community service types of [inaudible] that we kind of added at the end. So I think it works to have a little bit of structure as to what things you want to hit. And then it's pretty easy from there to create an event. We did have a little bit of an issue getting the word out. So I think Chuck really helped with that with the email that goes out to everyone, because I don't think we could do it without --

>> Exactly.

>> But yeah.

>> Did you want to add anything, Rachel, about the structure of how we did the RCSA and what the new office can expect?

>> That's -- I mean, you guys touched on most of it. I heard a little bit of it, and I lost connection. But you guys basically said it all. I think just [inaudible] also is you just, you know, [inaudible] the organization. And I think it is good to get to know the peers in all of the cohorts. That's one of the coolest things [inaudible] throughout the program [inaudible] talking to the students and like finding out what they wanted and what they were looking for. I think as part of our first event that we had we did kind of like a survey and talked with students to figure out what they wanted out of [inaudible]. So I think really using your officer's position to talk to the [inaudible], and be the voice, and listen to them, their concerns, and what their interests are, I think that's really [inaudible] as an officer in the RCSA.

>> Yeah, and then -- because Rachel, I'm not sure if you caught the question. I [inaudible] for the new officers like how do they kind of get started? How do they start their role as an officer? So you know, the idea of a survey or some way to reach out to the student body I think is a really good idea, you know, because one of the things we -- you know, we said at the beginning is that every year is very different for RCSA. And the student body is very different every year. You know, we have students come in from different backgrounds, they need different things. There's different things going on in the profession. You know, there's more students are going for licensure than in the past. There's just a number of things that, again, make every year kind of different. And you know, the needs of the students will be different, so like a way to reach out, you know, via survey or something like that I think is very helpful. Yeah, I think this was a good time to open it up to questions and discussion with our three guests here who are thinking about, you know, running for RCSA. So let's kind of open it up and have questions for the officers.

>> Okay, well, I'll start.

>> Absolutely.

>> It's Liz. I'm super grateful for just what you had to say. I think my biggest question was, you know, looking at some of the duties and responsibilities, it didn't see that there was any definitive direction. And what it sounds like is that you really come up with like your mission and your direction of what you want that to look like. Did you all gather like at a certain date and time? I mean, are there bylaws or --

>> We do --

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>> -- and what does that look like with the university? Like what's your relationship to the university as a whole? Like are there expectations that as a student organization you fulfill certain duties, or?

>> Okay, so we --

>> Great question.

>> -- we do have bylaws. And you know, we do, you know -- in some sense, you know, are responsible for -- to -- what's it called? -- to having open communication between the university and us. And we do that by -- one of the expectations is that for being a recognized organization is that we have to go to conflict resolution kind of training. And that's typically going to be the treasurer and the president. But you know, anyone who's in the officer [inaudible] can go. It's once on a Saturday for about six hours, but you learn a lot. It's really great. I enjoyed it a lot. The other expectation -- well, going to meetings, we set up a meeting with Chuck once a month on a Wednesday. I mean, typically it was right before class starts, around 3:30, or whatever time was available for people. And then those who -- officers who weren't able to make it physically, you know, they would call in, or we would just let them know what happened. And then --

>> Great.

>> -- fill them in that way, everyone else was going on.

>> That's super helpful. That was my next question was like, Chuck, you kind of act as an advisor. So you're kind of the midwife in terms of -- well, in terms of like out with the old, and we're bringing in -- you know, kind of -- yeah, because we're --

>> Yeah, but I think, you know, that's an important aspect of RCSA is that we're officially affiliated with the university. There are hundreds of different student organizations on campus. Theirs academic organizations like ours, then there's social organizations, there are athletic organizations, a lot of different things. And you know, one of the things we were talking about before we started today is, you know, [inaudible] I think you said those -- you know, we're, you know, basically a commuter campus. And I think as a student body in the [inaudible] counseling program we have a lot of students who are working and have, you know, lives outside of, you know, being in class.

So there's sometimes difficult to kind of be part of like the social things going on at SCSU. So being part of like a -- you know, having this official affiliation is one way to kind of feel more connected to the university. And I think like if you go into this role, that is like one thing where you could really make this your own. You could identify different student organization and maybe want to partner with them, do things. And you know, so it's -- the -- really, the sky's the limit. But as Dorothea said, there are some responsibilities that go with, you know, like going to some trainings. Some of them are online, some are in person. And you know, just making that -- keep -- maintain that official affiliation.

>> Right, right. That's awesome.

>> And then also I would like to mention that there's -- I think there's like [inaudible] officers. You have to have a treasurer. You have to have a president. And I think you need to have three other positions. I think it's a total of five officers who have to be -- you have to have in order to be a recognized student organization on the campus. And what that entails, so basically the whole process was in terms of that, and there is an online portal. So if you go to SCSU's website, and then you go to student life and leadership, it will be like -- either it will be renew a club, or something along those -- I think it's renew a club, or renew your org, or start a new club -- so whatever it is, there's --

>> Yeah, like [inaudible] it was only [inaudible] so you don't start from scratch, yeah.

>> And what that process entailed is you have to plug in your student ID. And it's like all the information that you put into web portal, you know, is put onto this -- is -- they kind of have it merged, so the information is the same as if you were [inaudible] onto your SCSU web portal. And then from that point on you fill out all the necessary information. So it's going to have -- a lot of it's -- well, you know, so if you were to login with your stuff, it would have my information, Dorothea's information, Diva's [assumed spelling] information, and Katie and Leah's information listed on there. And of course, Chuck is the advisor. So you could go in there, and it's basically like a form that you would just fill out. And then there's a couple of requirements on the actual website. So there's -- you have to do an online training as well. That didn't take too long, but it's just -- it's an online -- basically understanding how the structure of like an organization is at the campus. So they have a lot of different requirements. Like if we were to have an event on the actual campus, like how would we handle food, that sort of thing; how to [inaudible] space on the campus.

Since we're kind of an off-campus [inaudible], we're mostly offsite, and we do most of our events at [inaudible] the poster board [inaudible] at the library. But it tells you how to do all these things, and it gives you all the information. So you have go through that. And I think at least two officers -- or I think the treasurer and the president have to go through that. And then everyone has to like [inaudible] sign it. So they go in -- every officer has to login into this system on the student activities website and put in their student ID, their phone number, and then basically like click an agree to these terms sort of deal. It also requires that you upload the bylaws. Since they're already uploaded there, I don't think you would have to re-upload them, but I can't remember if I had to actually redo it every time we renewed the organization. And then yeah, so -- and then once you do the training, the [inaudible] there's a COCIA -- SOCIA training that they have for the -- on the Saturday that you pick. Once you go through that, that will update onto the system. And then once you fill all of the checkboxes of requirements, the org -- you should just be able to click [inaudible] you're going to be a registered organization. So that's the only tedious thing. So about [inaudible] is that there's a few little details. But I also know just like [inaudible] go around that in some instances. So if you have questions, you're more than welcome to ask me, just because I kind of had a lot of --

>> Right.

>> Well, a couple of things come to mind. I really like the abstract or the mentoring aspect of it, supporting each other. And I was wondering if the RCSA has any role in like supporting the graduating students as they're exiting the program? And if there's any --like do you guys see any opportunities that maybe haven't been tapped as far as that goes? That's one question. And then the other aspect, you had mentioned funding, and so I was wondering how that mechanism has worked [inaudible] activities.

>> Great question [inaudible] budget.

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>> Well, there is a -- it's set by the officers, but there is a membership fee. I think last year it was $20. Dorothea?

>> The previous officers had set it for $20 for both semesters, so $20 a year. Or if you just wanted to be part of one semester, it would be $10. Last year we had decided to forego -- in the fall we had to forego the fee because membership was -- there wasn't really a lot of interest. So we thought instead of asking people to pay membership fee for something that they might not have a lot of trust in, we decided to not do that and then have -- you know, build that trust again, build those relationships, and then once that that's grown a little bit, in the spring we're planning on adding the membership again.

>> You know, an in terms of like -- you know, sounds like you're saying you're thinking about maybe as like a group of RCSA officers, finding a way to support the people graduating, right?

>> Yeah.

>> You know, I mean, one thing that comes to mind is that when you finish the program, your final exam is called the certified rehabilitation counseling examination. It's a national exam taken by rehab counselors. And I mean, that might be something where perhaps that could be an RCSA initiative to have like a structured way to help students prepare for that exam. You know, maybe like obtaining, you know, books and other kind of training materials, or having some kind of structured way to help students prepare for that. You know, I know we've had some discussions with that over the last couple of years of finding a way to do that. And it would help, you know, you guys, too, when you get to that point of graduating. So you know, that's one way. But I -- yeah, I hadn't really thought in other ways about that, but that's an interesting idea. I mean, when you think about it, Robert, what are some possibilities maybe you see for that?

>> Well, I -- your suggestion is great, just kind of preparing people for what kind of comes next, and -- so that as they exit the program, they've got their certification in place. I know that I think it was in the graduate handbook I read where we do an event for the graduating -- the people who are graduating. And if I remember correctly, it said something about the first-year students kind of play a role in hosting or --

>> Well, there's the graduate -- there's like a graduation event -- there's like -- when you graduate, there's the university graduation, and there's also a department ceremony. So that's where you help out with that.

>> I see. The RCSA, do they play any kind of a role, or they have played any kind of a role in that, or --

>> Not really.

>> -- opportunity?

>> Yeah, in terms of like, you know, different university or department events, RCSA has spoken at new student orientations, at outreach events we have -- like we have open houses in November and January. So things like that. There's different ways RCSA has represented the department. But you know -- but that's the kind of thing like where if you came in as new officers, you could really create whatever you think makes sense. There's really no test -- like there's no one way to do it. So whatever comes to mind.

>> Can I piggyback?

>> Sure, absolutely.

>> Can I piggyback on that? What have you seen work in the past that's been successful? It sounds like we know some of the challenges of being part of a commuter campus, you know, getting people to kind of -- you know, it's hard with timing and just sometimes responsibilities, working with families.

>> I think like you --

>> But what have you seen that you -- if this group has been around for 10 years -- like in the past that you thought were -- was really helpful in terms of professional networking or like --

>> I think like kind of like the culture events with the current, or you know, the exiting officers put on, I think that -- those kind of things I think are very helpful. I think that the last feedback from a lot of the students is that they want professional development opportunities. You know, because, you know, you guys are obviously in the Master's program preparing for a specific career. So students have a lot of needs, you know, and things that could be helpful in that pursuit. So that's where like I think this PRC workshop, or the poster sessions, or things that will help you -- I feel like the poster session helps with the current Bachelors', but it also could help for, you know, down the road if you present at conferences or other kinds of settings where you -- you know, you have that kind of skill. I think other things like, you know, getting exposed to different opportunities in different states. We've had some prior events where we've had -- like one year we had via I think Skype somebody from -- like the hiring person for the Nevada State [inaudible] agency did a presentation talking about working for Nevada.

And she talked about all these different opportunities that they had. We've had like DOR come and do training. And they talked about [inaudible]. You know, so things like that. It could be like new kinds of -- new kind of things you think are helpful for rehab counselors to know about, like you know, like [inaudible] plans, working with people with mental illness, or other kinds of like tools or strategies that might be helpful. I mean, those are things I would be considered. But I think, you know, you also mentioned like where the social possibilities are. I think there's a need for that, too. You know, the challenge -- you know, I think you guys -- I'm looking at our current officers -- I think the challenge is just time, getting people that can attend that. You know, we talked about --

>> Right, networking.

>> -- do we want to have it on a Friday night? Or do we want it on a Saturday? Or do we have -- you know, there's always like some kind of -- there's never a perfect time because everyone's schedules are so like busy and demanding, especially when the school year starts, you know. So that's, I think, the biggest challenge.

>> Yeah, yeah.

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>> Also like if you've taken a class that other people haven't taken yet, and you see something in that class that could pass off as a good tip for people who haven't taken it yet, that's a good thing to pass on. That's kind of what happened with the poster workshop, where some people took the class and realized that this is a challenging assignment, so let's do a workshop and help, you know, people who haven't taken that class yet.

>> Were those previous students then that led that?

>> Yeah.

>> Good.

>> And I see the opportunity for mentoring to happen between the students that have experience in the program and then the incoming to kind of create that [inaudible] environment. And I know [inaudible] program in general, and so just kind of build on that. And what --

>> Now something that a couple of different RCSA groups have tried, and I think with mixed success because of the logistic challenge of doing this, is where we have second- and third-year students who would be identified as mentors for first-year students. And they would be identified as like, you know, let's say, Sandy, you could talk to your mentor and give that person a call about questions you have about like Foundations, or Medical Aspects, or you know, some class you're taking right now, and you can just have somebody you can always reach out to. I mean, I think if there's a way to do that, I think that could be a helpful thing.

>> Have you ever had students who are currently in internships or practicums come and talk about where they're working?

>> I don't think so.

>> Like a panel?

>> No.

>> That would be good.

>> We need the budget [inaudible] all.

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>> Yeah, we also played around with the idea of like a lending library, you know, for students who have taken a class or graduated who no longer want --

>> That's great.

>> -- who don't need the textbook anymore, bringing them back to the school and they're staying like in the main office where you can check them out until you either decide to purchase your own book, or you know, what -- or if you're waiting for, you know, FAFSA to kick in and you don't have it, you can at least lend it for that period as temporarily.

>> Or do you always have [inaudible] a month later.

>> Right, right, exactly. Yeah, so we played around with that idea. And still trying to get that off the ground, too.

>> Did you -- so you had like a Facebook page.

>> Yes.

>> Did you have a website or --

>> No, just a Facebook page.

>> Okay, right.

>> Which I do realize has some barriers because not everyone uses Facebook.

>> That's right.

>> So I think that's something that, you know, especially if you're thinking about reaching out to everybody, maybe making it a website or something like that where everyone has access to it who's not necessarily connected to social media.

>> Right, right, okay. I was just thinking of that for the [inaudible] report.

>> Yeah, I mean, there may be a way to have, though, designated website space on the RCP website, you know, for RCSA.

>> Right.

>> I think the challenge would be, you know, the -- like we probably couldn't have our staff who maintain the website maintain the RCSA -- like you couldn't --

>> Couldn't have that.

>> -- send that person a bunch of stuff saying, "Can you post all of this?" You know, there would have to be some way that the RCSA officers or members could do it.

>> Yeah, and -- because I'm also thinking like there are times when you have the bag lunches, like there's so much going on during school, and these job opportunities are popping up, and then you're seeing this, you know, lunch thing. And you know, like keeping that all together like in a calendar, or just having links, or you know, like, "Hey, these are all the job opportunities that have come in. Here's a calendar of the month, what's happening, you know, blah, blah, or -- you know, who's doing what right now. And just having like a center. It's almost like just -- since we're in so many different locations and we're all moving fast, you know, having one kind of information center that people can kind of go to. And if that didn't know if that would be competing with the RCP site --

>> You know --

>> -- which is kind of the --

>> -- I think -- yeah, I think once you get the space, it's just a matter of like maintaining the site, finding a way to do that where it doesn't take a lot of staff time. So there's probably a way to do it.

>> Yeah, very easy.

>> You know, one thing we didn't talk about is like the specific roles, like the different -- president, vice president, treasurer, secretary, RSCA liaison, or something like that? Yeah, if you guys could talk -- current officers, if you guys could talk about the different roles and like how they differ, because I imagine like for our guests here, you've probably been thinking, "Do I run for president, or treasurer, or vice president?" And like what's the difference of all these different roles? How would you guys define these roles?

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>> I would just say my role is, you know, the other half of Rachel. If she's not able to be there, you know, I step in as the lead for that times, like when we had a meeting and she wasn't able to be there. You know, I kind of took lead on that. You know, other than that, just, you know -- I wouldn't say it's much different from any of the other -- I mean, I think we did it where everyone was essentially equal, it doesn't matter what role you have. You know, we all let each other, you know, voice our opinions, our concerns if we had anything. And through that collaboration, we were able to make the events that we did do, because we were open about it, and -- yeah.

>> So it sounds like there was no one person kind of driving it. Like it was really -- you were all kind of vested.

>> Exactly.

>> So I mean, you know, so that -- it sounds like these five roles are kind of there so that you can be an on-campus --

>> Right.

>> -- be legit, I guess.

>> Yeah, exactly, but we --

>> But that in actuality like the fact that you were --

>> Yeah, exactly. We were all --

>> -- like getting together to say, "Hey, what can we do to like serve and, you know, to like help other students?"

>> Exactly.

>> Okay, that's kind of helpful.

>> I think the only difference would be that the president and vice president were more in charge of getting those, you know, things checked off of the mandatory stuff that the university required. Whereas, I didn't really play a role in that.

>> Right.

>> Did you -- as a recognized student officer, did you do any representation on campus?

>> Some of the classrooms, like if I was in a class -- we kind of put a sheet out with all our class schedules so we made sure that we hit every single class.

>> Each one of us [inaudible] every single class that we -- like tried to hit like all first-years and up. If they're beginning classes like Foundations, we tried to definitely be in there. There were a couple of -- where all four of us were in one class. So it's like okay, one of you just get up there, because otherwise it's just going to be too many. And then you know, but we weren't -- we decided whoever had the free time, it's one where you didn't have that class, we would jump in real quick and just make a quick announcement.

>> Helpful, thank you.

>> So the treasurer would deal with, you know, collecting the payments for the memberships, and that's probably the primary role.

>> Right, right, right. So collecting dues, making sure that everything's okay with, you know, the bank that we --

>> [Inaudible] accounts?

>> Yeah, so I -- that was actually one of the things that we had to clear up last year is that since we re now working as a student organization, we have to have a bank account that's linked to the university.

>> Yeah.

>> And so we sent all that through the bank on campus. So yeah, the treasurer takes care of the dues. If we ever want to, you know, have a party or something like that, make sure that there's enough funds so we can do it. Or if we [inaudible], you know, do a fundraiser so we can make sure that everyone --

>> Do you use QuickBooks or any accounting --

>> No.

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>> Actually, no. No, we [inaudible] do that.

>> No?

>> No, but it's a good idea.

>> It's great.

>> And one of the things we -- you know, this year that was different from the -- our previous years, we had a distance student as one of the officers. And so, yeah, I think, you know, for the incoming set of officers for RCSA, to continue to look for ways to get the distance students involved, you know, which is really a challenge, because you know, they're all over the state, all over the country. And but there's a way to do that, I think. You know, I think you guys were [inaudible] to get them involved this year.

>> Right, and Angie, actually, our distance student who was our liaison, she actually did a presentation on -- she works with --

>> Oh, yeah, that was her!

>> Yeah, so we had her do a presentation on what she does with the [inaudible] rehabilitation up in Alaska.

>> Right.

>> So it's finding ways of connecting with distance students. And you know, even if it means like finding internship opportunities, you know, what they like about where they're working, just getting them involved, too.

>> Yeah, that's great.

>> Yeah.

>> Is there any opportunity for outreach on campus, like possibly putting together -- I don't know whether it would be a PowerPoint or whatever, and taking it to maybe different departments to make them what the Rehabilitation Counseling Program is, and that it exists, and that sort of thing? Kind of a --

>> Well, I think -- I don't think we did it in the capacity of the RCSA, but I know Chuck does outreach to like the undergrads, like especially in Psychology to, you know, recruit them to the program. But that could actually be a good point for the new RCSA officers to come and go, "Hey, you know what? This is who we are. You have leadership opportunities even in grad school. It doesn't end at undergrad."

>> There's your role.

>> Yeah, so I could do that. What did we -- in our year, we didn't really [inaudible] outreach, so that's definitely something I think that would be great, especially when recruiting new students or even just linking up with other organization that are similar to us so we could do like bigger events. I think that would be a great idea.

>> Right, like just thinking of like -- we have some MSC counselors. And I sent to a counseling group at the counseling center, which is for counselors in training, you know, just around whether that's boundaries, or self-care, or the imposter syndrome. You know, I even thought as like a self-reflective piece, do people know their own Myers-Briggs? You know, do counselors themselves really know who they are? You know, and kind of exploring some of those questions like outside of the classroom. You know, some of those reflective activities that I thought the counseling center did a good job in providing. Of course, it was a hard time for a lot of people.

>> Good idea.

>> That's great.

>> You know, I didn't even know about that.

>> Well, if we had a website, we could stick it on it.

>> There's your role.

>> I need to get that sucker out there.

>> Create a position of webmaster [inaudible] a little knack for doing that sort of thing.

>> I was going to say, the last couple of nonprofits I was in, somehow I got in -- like by default into like launching [inaudible] I didn't launch them themselves, but it was like they were all going through change.

>> Right, right.

>> It's like [inaudible] quick --

>> Do you want to talk about the process for doing the elections this year? What are you guys thinking?

>> Right, so Chuck and I were discussing this before as far as when I first started in the program it was actually that first-year students couldn't vote, which at the time I was like, it's fine. I don't know who these people are. It's okay for me. But I think especially considering that the RCSA membership and the members is so low, to only keep it open to them would be a disservice to you guys. So we discussed that -- making it open to everybody, and then in your purpose statement, you know, telling a little bit about yourself, why you want this role, and what you plan to do. That way, even if they've never met you they can get a picture of who you are and what you plan to do. And they can they can think, "Okay, I really want to vote for Liz for this position."

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>> So you'll have -- will you have perspective candidates like send in statements?

>> Right, so [inaudible] after tonight we would give about a week and a half to, you know, let perspective candidates bring -- turn in their paper. And Chuck and I discussed putting it on Qualtrics, so he would take over that role. Once all of the candidates have put in their papers or their statements, he would put up the Qualtrics survey with all the information. And then once it's complete, we would give another one and a half weeks or so, so that everyone has a chance to vote. And then that way, by the time school starts, the RCSA officers have already been announced, and they can start working on things for like the conflict resolution training that they have to do, and you know, changing over things for -- you know, with the organization so that it's ready to go. We're not waiting on anything.

>> Right. Is it possible, Chuck, as you send out those Qualtrics surveys -- like I'm thinking of first-years coming in -- just to even like put a needs assessment out there?

>> Well, I think -- I'm going to leave that up to --

>> Or that is that something --

>> Well, I mean, we could even add in a space at the end of the survey saying, "What would you like to see out of this [inaudible] group?"

>> Yeah, what do you feel [inaudible], you know, because I think we all -- again, like we all have different needs. And you know, because each year, you know, is kind of going into this different space, and so.

>> And we could even put in there like identify yourself as what year you are so that it's still not -- let's say okay, I'm a second-year student. What do I need as a second-year student?

>> That's great.

>> What do I need as a first-year student? And then we can kind of match those up. And if it's a mentoring thing, or you know, if there's textbooks that need to be -- [inaudible] we can start leading people up across the --

>> Right.

>> You know -- yeah.

>> Is Rachel still there?

>> I think so.

>> Rachel?

>> Yeah, yes, I'm here.

>> Hi, Rach.

>> So I had a question. I was wondering, are we going to present RCSA at the new student orientation on the 16th?

>> Well, it would be great, I think, for you guys because the -- you know, the outgoing officers, if you're available for that, that would be wonderful. You know, and we could have you come in like for the first half hour so you're not there for the whole -- I think it's like three hours we have you guys in orientation?

>> Yeah, I think three hours.

>> Yeah [inaudible] 15 minutes, and then you can get out of there.

>> There's no like [inaudible] good time to ask people if they want to be members and maybe get a member sign-up sheet going around.

>> Right.

>> Could you [inaudible] like a needs assessment there?

>> We could do one there, and then also having the survey, that way --

>> Yeah, like [inaudible] like do you want to [inaudible] what are things that you would like to see here? Does that sound good to you guys, like the first-years coming in --

>> I think that would be great, yeah.

>> -- are like I'd like to know this, or -- you know.

>> And you know, if it's on the 16th, I would hold off, you know, keep the candidacy open until the 18th, that way, you know, if they don't have a chance to listen to this, or they don't know anything about it, they can still add their statements.

>> That's a good idea.

>> If they want to be an officer?

>> Right, right.

>> You know, do you want to participate?

>> Yeah, that's great.

>> When is the orientation --

>> The 16th.

>> So Wednesday from 1:00 to 4:00.

>> All right.

>> [Inaudible] kind of struggling with all this stuff.

>> Any other questions you guys have, you know, perspective officers? Anything else you want to know?

>> Yeah, I guess just, you know, the process of kind of being an incoming student into the program, I'm a little bit at a loss as to decide what position a person would run for based on not having really any experience in the program and that sort of thing. Do you have any suggestions on that? Like student representative as an incoming student? Would that be a productive role or?

>> I would highly recommend, you know, playing on your strengths, and then also finding something that would challenge you. I kind of [inaudible] position, but it's like I'm actually glad that it happened, because it's -- you know, it's forced me to, you know, be more open [inaudible] talking. And it has just helped me become a better person and student as well. So I would find the niche that you are interested in, you can do the best that -- or even if there's -- if you have skills in multiple roles, well, you know, you can always kind of go in between, you know, [inaudible] the person who's in that role. I would just say, you know, find what you're most interested in and what you're comfortable with where you're also going to challenge yourself, you know, [inaudible] for the organization.

>> Thank you.

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>> All right, Rachel, anything else?

>> Yeah, I was going to say I think also reaching out to like the new students, obviously with the new student orientation that's like that helps kind of get the information out. But I do think that maybe starting out with a social event in the beginning to get students to know each other, and to talk to one another, and engage with the other cohorts -- I mean, the reason why I've honestly done so well in this program is because I have made friends in like [inaudible] but I had friends in each cohort ahead of me when I started, and that really helped because I had two or three resources throughout the program. So I think by starting with a social event and getting as many people as possible -- [inaudible] the third-years -- I mean, no offense, we're tired. We're burned out. But I do think if we can get [inaudible] students, but at least one person from each cohort to at least be a representative -- I mean, we do [inaudible], but I think having an event that kind of promotes having that first -- you know, I do believe that to have like an effective means of kind of having them [inaudible], essentially you have to like -- I call it like touching people three times.

So you have to like talk to them, [inaudible] email. Or talk to them face to face three different times. And so starting that conversation, whether it be [inaudible] a quick social event or just getting to know our cohort in like other ways that are like, you know, [inaudible] or at orientation tell something about ourselves, or oh, this is your first class, or tell me something unique about yourself. You know how that whole thing goes. But actually getting people to engage in that, and maybe an activity to bring people to get to know each other, that will help not only with the new students coming into the program, but it will also help maintain the RCSA membership level and --

>> Yeah.

>> Agreed.

>> Yeah, I agree, too.

>> So that's all I got.

>> That was good.

>> And perhaps like present our event at the new student orientation? Or is that too soon?

>> That's a good idea.

>> I think that's a really good idea, actually, because it gets people thinking. The thing is, like at orientation, I mean, everybody is [inaudible] at orientation.

>> You are. Well, and [inaudible] like people starting off well, having [inaudible] for the international students in the past and during orientation, it was always like if you have a really good start [inaudible] versus kind of a rocky start where you're not -- you're disconnected. But you know, like then [inaudible] feel super, super welcomed and, you know, get everyone connected.

>> Like you were mentioning a barbecue, so they could like --

>> Like a barbecue, or a [inaudible], or [inaudible] park --

>> -- beach or something.

>> -- yeah, down at the beach where --

>> And doing it right before school starts, that way, you know, everyone has time. You don't have to --

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That [inaudible] before everything, you know, goes into motion. And we could, you know, even just do like a very general like, "Hey, we're going to plan this barbecue. Be on the lookout for the email and the flyers, you know, on our Facebook page," so that they can at least be aware, and they can start, you know, making plans for like, you know, if they do have families or they have to work, they can kind of work around that.

>> Right, that's a good idea.

>> Well, that kind of I think takes us to the end of our time. And I appreciate our officers being here and talking about their experiences. And you guys thinking about, you know, running for offices, that will really help you think about this. Think [inaudible] a great opportunity. So I -- you know, I imagine our current officers would be available for any questions --

>> Of course.

>> And again, you know, we'll talk [inaudible] orientation about this. And yeah, so that's it.

>> Thank you.

>> Thank you guys.

>> Thank you, Chuck.

>> Bye, Rachel!

>> Thank you, Rachel!

>> Bye!

>> Thank you.

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